hi to all on forum,.
i want to set the stage first:.
it was in the mid-to late 70's, i woke up one morning to a gloomy day, because the weather was expected to be very snowy.
The WT does not baptize people so they can worship Jehovah. They baptize people to worship them. Their followers treat the organization the way that most Christians treat God. They listen to every request and do it without questioning, even if it seems confusing or downright wrong. They believe that their salvation can come only through the WT. And they believe that if they ever leave the WT, they have left God.
It looks to me like the WT is a false Christ.
or is that not a good question to ask because bethel will read it and use the information somehow?.
i am still curious though.. bf.
Purps said, "They would be stupid not to monitor this site."
I agree. The truth about "the truth" is already doing a great deal of damage to them. While I have no actual evidence of them monitoring this site, they have a definite interest in knowing what their opponents are saying about them, as well as any action they might take. And we know they have monitered others because they have sued to have certain information removed.
one of my last threads i talked about how this brother calls me and we talk and he listens and we remain friends even though i tell the truth about the organization.
because i always say, "no matter what, i support the organization and the gb.".
some of you may think that's lying, which it is.
BF,
I just love it! I think you may have come up with an ingenious strategy. Keep letting us know how it goes!
there would be no jws if these books were read first .... .
another gospel.
ruth a. tucker.
That's a great list! Thanks for sharing it.
I would also recommend Steven Hassan's two books on cults and how they operate,"Combatting Cult Mind Control" and "Releasing the Bonds: Empowering People to Think for Themselves."
how do i begin this... i feel like pouring my heart out about something that is bothering me.
i'm getting older.
you know when we were young, we were given hope.
Welcome to the board!
After being raised a JW, I also believed that they were the most morally upright people and "the world" was filled with those who were untrustworthy, immoral and the like. It didn't take long to realize that was just one more WT lie designed to attract and retain members in the organization. Not only does the WT not have a monopoly on morality, I believe JWs are even more likely to commit adultery. In the WT there is only one way to "break" a marriage and that is adultery. I have known JWs who commited adultery just so they could end their marriage.
It may be an enlightening experience for you to develop friendships with people who are not JWs. I'm not talking about single women who you might get involved with. I mean people in general. As you get to know them and realize they are good people, you may develop a new confidence in future romantic possibilities.
Best wishes to you.
i've only been a witless for about 7 years or so and left al little over a year ago and i've been coming here since.
you would think that after a year it would all be over with but i just cannot get the wt shit outta my head.
it's like a plague... .
It would be a lot easier to let go if I didn't have family still in. Maybe someday my family can get out and we can all heal. Until then, I have to live without some of them, and that's hard because I miss them.
this can apply to any country - but shouldn't patriotism and those that serve to protect a country, be at the very least, given the utmost in care and consideration for putting their lives on the line?
first an occpation called a war - killing 5,000 us men and women; then we find out that a couple of those deaths were from faulty wiring and electrocution; then we find out they were paid less than the private contractors hired by the government; then we find out some of the water and food was no good; they come back and we now find 27,000 pieces of mail from vets to the veterans administration was thrown in a back room unopened and almost half of those coming back are still fighting for simple health care and benefits.
it just doesn't seem right....sammieswife.. the pentagon allegedly endangered u.s. soldiers by implementing and covering-up dangerously toxic waste-incineration practices at balad airbase in iraq during years past, as revealed in a leaked air force memo [pdf].
Thanks for posting this.
i recognized, when i first started searching the web, that there are tons of information regarding jehovah's witnesses.
most is negative toward the religion.. coming onto jwd/jwn gives one a different perspective.
you get to interact with those thinking about leaving, those who have already left and even some who never were in the cult but are fascinated by the experiences of those that were in the "truth".. when you are on this site, how does it affect you??
Most of the time this site makes me feel better, like a huge relief. But sometimes I feel sad when realizing just what a tragedy the WT has become.
I'm very glad to have the opportunity to be here. It has helped me tremendously in healing from the experience. When I first came, I had been out for many years. I still had family in, so I was curious about what was new in dubland. I knew that time was marching on and wondered how the WT was explaining Armageddon's failure to appear. What I found was much more scandal than I had thought even the WT was capable of. You couldn't have predicted that UN thing with a crystal ball! That truly falls into the "truth is stranger than fiction" category. (Or maybe the "shoulda known better than to trust a cult" category.)
I am very thankful for this sight and for Simon who has made it all possible!
i was raised in a non religious household that was very stable & loving.. through circumstances, i bacame a jw.. .
during the 10 years that i had the misfortune to practice the religion, my young energetic & happy.
mind became negative, worried & depressed.. .
I was a pioneer for four years. I specifically remember how terribly boring it was to spend 90 hours a month (the requirement at that time) knocking on doors where 90% of the time no one was home, 9% of the time anyone who was home wished you hadn't come, and the 1% or less of people who were willing to talk to you were either lonely or trying to convert you to their religion.
It was the incredible boredom that I remember most from that time. Studying WT publications and going to meetings was a continual rehash of the same old BS, and involved little or no real spirituality. The WT treadmill kept you plenty busy, but not with anything that provided real meaning or value. And it was a total waste of any brain cells one might have had.
i have recently joined after spending over 12 months lurking reading posts and evaluating/digesting the truth about the truth.
i learned all about ray franz here and after reading both of his books feel a great deal of appreciation toward the man for what i can only describe as a labour of love on his part.. .
(romans 9:1) how, though, can we make sure that our conscience is in harmony with jehovahs holy spirit?
Interesting. Thanks for posting this. I hope you make it a regular event.
